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A wide-ranging commentary on the daily page of Talmud.

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Ketubot 30: Heavenly vs Earthly Punishment

jyungar August 5, 2022

For the source text click/tap here: Ketubot 30

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On our daf the rabbis consider the argument about karet, death at the hand of heaven, vs. capital punishment, death at the hand of man.

Verses from Exodus 21:23 and Genesis 42:38 help us to understand each concept.

Since we know that fines are not honoured if they accompany capital punishment, do we extrapolate this to the payment of fines in other circumstances?

Perhaps these verses refer to what is controlled by G-d and what is controlled by man.

The rabbis describe tzinim pachim, cold and heat, which are argued to exist at the hand of Heaven and alternatively at the hand of man.

“Cold and heat are on the path of the crooked, he who guards his soul shall keep far from them” (Prov 22:5)

We explore the differences between death by court vs death by heaven, and Itamar Eldar’s analysis of the fear of heaven in the writings of Rebbe Nachman.

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This is Julian Ungar-Sargon's personal website. It contains poems, essays, and podcasts for the spiritual seeker and interdisciplinary aficionado.​